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	<title>Comments on: Nice integration of IM into Yahoo Mail</title>
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	<description>Parand Tony Darugar: A Cruel and Petty Dictator</description>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-51784</link>
		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.koolim.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.koolim.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-39695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope.. no personal blog, although watching and reading the news outlets these days (even supposedly somewhat  credible ones like CCN and the NY Times) has given me the urge to start a personal blog and just remind myself of the difference between reporting and expressing opinion, that become &quot;facts&quot;. I guess lots of folks are trying to &quot;keep up with the Joneses&quot; in the news business. 

for now the sun blog is the only one i have and I haven&#039;t been that good at keeping up with it.. next, you can watch my opinion about Amazon S3 service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope.. no personal blog, although watching and reading the news outlets these days (even supposedly somewhat  credible ones like CCN and the NY Times) has given me the urge to start a personal blog and just remind myself of the difference between reporting and expressing opinion, that become &#8220;facts&#8221;. I guess lots of folks are trying to &#8220;keep up with the Joneses&#8221; in the news business. </p>
<p>for now the sun blog is the only one i have and I haven&#8217;t been that good at keeping up with it.. next, you can watch my opinion about Amazon S3 service.</p>
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		<title>By: Parand Darugar</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-39593</link>
		<dc:creator>Parand Darugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mehdi, I didn&#039;t know you have a blog. Subscribed. Do you have a personal one as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mehdi, I didn&#8217;t know you have a blog. Subscribed. Do you have a personal one as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-39585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need both. 

life used to be much easier when i didn&#039;t have to change my (end user) behavior to accommodate changes to a *web* application like this or having to play around with the cache size on the browser. either way the user is forced to trade in something because the web application got changed.  Yahoo mail is not alone. Now I&#039;m very careful to close pages and tabs (on firefox) when I&#039;m absolutely done with a page.

What I don&#039;t want to do is to leave the browser up and than come back and find out that it&#039;s quicker just to force a &quot;kill&quot;  on the browser than to wait for it to finish the data fetch/transfers. there is actually stuff there in other tabs that I hate navigating to again. 

i&#039;m not suer what causes this for Yahoo mail but too many times careless and excessive  use of xmlhttprequest calls with huge data transfers is the root cause of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need both. </p>
<p>life used to be much easier when i didn&#8217;t have to change my (end user) behavior to accommodate changes to a *web* application like this or having to play around with the cache size on the browser. either way the user is forced to trade in something because the web application got changed.  Yahoo mail is not alone. Now I&#8217;m very careful to close pages and tabs (on firefox) when I&#8217;m absolutely done with a page.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t want to do is to leave the browser up and than come back and find out that it&#8217;s quicker just to force a &#8220;kill&#8221;  on the browser than to wait for it to finish the data fetch/transfers. there is actually stuff there in other tabs that I hate navigating to again. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m not suer what causes this for Yahoo mail but too many times careless and excessive  use of xmlhttprequest calls with huge data transfers is the root cause of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Parand Darugar</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-39573</link>
		<dc:creator>Parand Darugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - kill me, please.

Actually, I have to agree - there is too much AJAX on that page. It puts a big burden on the browser. I have changed my habits - I used to leave the mail page open all the time, but now I log in only when I&#039;m notified of new email, and close it shortly after.

We either need a better/faster/leaner JavaScript engine in the browsers, or we need leaner use of AJAX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; kill me, please.</p>
<p>Actually, I have to agree &#8211; there is too much AJAX on that page. It puts a big burden on the browser. I have changed my habits &#8211; I used to leave the mail page open all the time, but now I log in only when I&#8217;m notified of new email, and close it shortly after.</p>
<p>We either need a better/faster/leaner JavaScript engine in the browsers, or we need leaner use of AJAX.</p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>http://parand.com/say/index.php/2007/02/14/nice-integration-of-im-into-yahoo-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-39515</link>
		<dc:creator>Mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but what are you going to do with all that AJAX screaming in the Yahoo mail window? My wife has  a habit of leaving her computer with her yahoo mail up and when I get to the computer hours later,  there is usually a message from the system on the screen and it says &quot;Kill me, please&quot; :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but what are you going to do with all that AJAX screaming in the Yahoo mail window? My wife has  a habit of leaving her computer with her yahoo mail up and when I get to the computer hours later,  there is usually a message from the system on the screen and it says &#8220;Kill me, please&#8221; <img src='http://parand.com/say/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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